Jean Louis

https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#apache2

I am very positively surprised and wish to buy you coffee, send me link.

However:

Freedom 2: Freedom to Redistribute Copies

• The license allows users to "create copies for personal backup" and "fork the repository for study purposes." However, there is no explicit permission to redistribute copies to others without restrictions.
• The license also states that "proper attribution is maintained," which could imply that redistribution might require compliance with specific attribution rules. This condition may restrict the ability to freely redistribute the software.
• Conclusion : This freedom is not fully satisfied due to potential restrictions on redistribution.

Attribution and promotion is not problem, it is alright.

I see you are mentioning few times "personal", which alone like that would or could imply that commercial use is not allowed, then you also mentioned it is allowed.

It would be better to correct the license to be very clear.

Apache License 2.0

The Apache License 2.0 is a permissive open-source license that explicitly requires attribution.

Key Features :

• Requires users to include a copy of the license and a notice of any modifications made to the original work.
• Grants patent rights to contributors, which is useful for larger projects.
• Explicitly requires attribution in both source and binary distributions.
• Allows redistribution and modification, including for commercial purposes, as long as the attribution requirements are met.

Writing licenses is kind of difficult and legal work.

I am ready to announce this project on other forums.

What is the point to forbid creation of derivative works on website where basically fundamentally everyone wish and want to create derivative works both from models and software, on the website where it has been made possible by one click to copy the repository, and of course to modify it???

I am not getting you. It is wrong space for that. You could as well use this free software which you are using to run the model and put it on some other website.

I am not getting you.

I have already cloned your model in full, full space, just for test, I have no bad intentions.

And I have now changed the software. There is derivative work.

What are you going to do now?

I hope that you can see there is no point in there.

NC means non-commercial and it means proprietary license, you cannot compare it with free software license, as it is opposite of what is free software and it is thus neither traditional "free software license" neither non-traditional "free software license".

It is proprietary license, as you proprietor are setting constraints over the use.

That is sad to hear how you disallow commercial use. You have been using many many pictures without even asking for their license, making basically derivative work, but you wish to forbid others using it commercially.

It makes no sense especially considering that transformers and torch and all the software is free software.

You should also understand that you gain basically nothing with it, you will make a lot of effort to make some money that way.

Don't you see that free software models are taking over?

Like what do you try to achieve by making it proprietary? Can you explain me?

If you are the one who trained the model, would you not be asked by companies to fine-tune it, or provide it, or install it for them? Make your money.

You can't even know if someone is going to sell it. Do you understand the point?

That license could make sense in the music world, copy as you wish, use it, but please don't sell my music. You could somehow detect the sale of music.

But how are you going to detect sale of software? I could right away make the website and sell software in plethora of countries without you knowing it. I could change license, abuse all the copyrights as I wish and want. You will not know it. This is hypothetical example to make you think that you achieve nothing bad less reach out there in the community of free software users.

Microsoft publishes free software models like Phi-4. IBM publishes Granite and I am using it right now, very handy for some purposes. Alibaba Group publishes Qwen, and there is DeepSeek, Allen AI published OLMo model as free software and teaches people how to do it.

Look https://pjreddie.com/darknet/ which can also recognize animals, I could teach it faster to recognize any bread as well. It is free software since how long? 2016

It get distributed in Debian GNU/Linux, do you know how wide is that reach? Debian get distributed in many other GNU/Linux distributions.

But as proprietary software it will not get wide distribution, consider that as free promotion.

It would be good that you get the point that you cannot prevent people using it commercially. If you think to sue someone in your own country, wherever it may be, fine. But there are other countries, you cannot even afford traveling somewhere and obtaining evidences to sue someone for commercial use of the model, which you have already more or less published here in the open for everyone to take it and use it.

Does it really make sense?

Issue of making money. You could be making money with it without even publishing it here. I think you could make it as a plugin so that online classified ads and websites can quickly recognize breeds. You could make your own website to recognize breads and make money on online advertising. I am sure there are many ways to make money with it. Maybe it is not best way to make money.

But if you really think you will make money by suing someone, as that is what NC or Non-Commercial means, then good luck with it.

Good, we don't care much who are in developed countries as there is no much enforcement.

Those are very different categories, free software DeepSeek and proprietary Llama.

What is Free Software? - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation:
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

The Open Mic
OpenAI hosts an open mic night.
Comedian: "Why did OpenAI cross the road?"
Audience: "Why?"
Comedian: "To close the door on the other side."

This week in "Open"-AI was 🔥 Let's recap! 🤗
merve/january-31-releases-679a10669bd4030090c5de4d
LLMs 💬
Huge: AllenAI released new Tülu models that outperform DeepSeek R1 using Reinforcement Learning with Verifiable Reward (RLVR) based on Llama 3.1 405B

Tülu models are based on proprietary Llama license, thus do not fit into the same category as DeepSeek which is truly free software, and which suddenly helped so many other companies.

You can't be comparing apples with oranges. Yes, you can, but it is obvious huge difference and person comparing it doesn't get right kudos he/she wanted to get.

AllenAI pretending to be "Open" sadly, joining companies like META to deceit and betray and enter into the community, it is type of deceitful propaganda where words such as "Open" are not protected, but rather tend to attract good portion of oblivious community.

Proprietary software category cannot be compared to free software category.

DeepSeek has reached the popularity for reason it is free software.

Infecting the AI space with proprietary software like Tülu by AllenAI to me looks like US propaganda against China.

I liked AllenAI truthfully, but now I see how much tricky they are, I feel deeply hurt by that betrayal.

References:

Meta’s LLaMa 2 license is not Open Source – Open Source Initiative:
https://opensource.org/blog/metas-llama-2-license-is-not-open-source

The Open Source Definition – Open Source Initiative:
https://opensource.org/osd

What is Free Software? - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation:
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

Word "Open" as in "Open Source" - Words to Avoid (or Use with Care) Because They Are Loaded or Confusing:
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Open

To matters most in models:

1. That they are free software by definition:

   • What is Free Software? - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation:
     https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
   • The Open Source Definition – Open Source Initiative:
     https://opensource.org/osd

2. That models follow instructions well;

3. That models can fit into consumer grade GPU and CPU; something like 24 GB and 64 GB RAM;

Accuracy doesn't matter too much, as when I need accuracy, I may use DeepSeek or other larger truly free software model.

Supporting companies that deceitfully claim to support "Open Source" is useless.

What is Free Software? - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

It is not free software, while deceitfully and skillfully pretending to be somewhere there judging by the wrongly used word "Open" in "Open"AI.

The Open Source Definition – Open Source Initiative:
https://opensource.org/osd

Word "Open" as in "Open Source" - Words to Avoid (or Use with Care) Because They Are Loaded or Confusing:
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Open

The Open Secret
OpenAI: "We're all about transparency!"
Everyone: "So, how does GPT-4 really work?"
OpenAI: "That's our little open secret."

Is it free software license?

What is Free Software? - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

Thanks much for the research! Any working examples?